YOU Season 4 Part 2 Ending Explained | Full Ser...

YOU Season 4 Part 2 Ending Explained | Full Series Breakdown, Review And Season 5 Predictions

Hmmmmmmmm You Season 4 Part 2 is now out, and after our last video, you decided to come back. What are you telling me? You could’ve just moved on, picked another, or subscribed to someone else. But you came back to me. What are you trying to tell me? What do yo…. AWWWITE GEEZER It’s me and the dark side here to spoil the show.

Pffff, so you just finished You season 4 part 2, and man, do we have a lot to talk about. Throughout this video, we’re going to be recapping the new Netflix show and also talking about the ending and where it could be going.

Full spoilers ahead, so if you haven’t checked it out, check it out now. With that out of the way, a huge thank you for clicking this, now let’s get into You Season 4.

You Season 4 Part 2 Explained: Who Is The Eat The Rich Killer?

Ok, so after all the breadcrumbs were laid in Part 1, Part 2 has us finally meeting Kate’s father, Tom Lockwood. Played by Greg Kinnear, he’s a devious, evil man who’s as obsessed with Kate as Joe is. It’s a fatherly obsession, but we learn that he’s secretly controlled every aspect of her life. Every job she got, every charitable event that went through—it was all him controlling things from the shadows.

We discover that he’s learned who Joe is early on and that he wants to use him and his certain set of skills to take out Rhys Montrose. Joe ends up doing this, which is when we get our first major twist. It turns out that Joe actually imagined the killer version of Rhys, who represents his darker and more evil side. Even though he’s doing horrendous things, audiences have always grown to like Joe because we see things from his point of view. He has very much presented this killer with a heart of gold to us, whereas Rhys represents what he’s really like. This plays into the ending, with him very much embracing this side after Kate enables him to do what he wants.

Now a big question that you might have in this reveal is why did Tom actually want Rhys dead if he wasn’t the rich killer. Well, it just boils down to him going after rich people. He already used the press to ruin his reputation, and sending Joe after him was very much the literal nail in the coffin.

You. (L to R) Ed Speleers as Rhys, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 407 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

Now, I think that the twist is very much gonna make or break the show for a lot of people and I do roll my eyes a lot when twists like this are revealed. It was shocking back in 1999 when it was used as part of Fight Club, but since then we’ve had countless shows and films using this as a narrative device.

I saw this theory in the wake of Part 1 and just thought it was pretty stupid, but hey, you got it right, so who looks stupid now?


Anyway, as I saw it slotting into place, I thought, “No way are they doing this stupid twist,” and I was ready to turn it off when the second Rhys stepped out.

However, I kept watching, and I think that, in all fairness, they did a lot with the reveal. It allows us to see Joe for who he really is, and to me, the good guy is actually the facade. I think it shows how good Penn Badgley is when he can be an evil, murderous stalker and still have people rooting for him.

Who Was Rhys Montrose In You Season 4 Part 2?

Now, the reason he created this idea of Rhys is because he became obsessed with him after moving to England. Rhys very much represents everything Joe wants to be, and in many ways, his arc mirrors the tales that the real Rhys tells us about himself. He came from nothing, and by the end of the season, he’s been plucked out of it by a rich figurehead, much like how Rhys was. He too grew up poor but then learned that he was the son of a duke, which allowed him to go into the upper class.

That’s very much what happens with Joe at the end of the season, which we’ll talk more about later on.

Now it’s also important to keep in mind that Lockwood fits this mold too. He also came from nothing and has used murder to get his way. Joe believes that he’s like Rhys when in reality he’s like Tom, and if his son Henry comes back into the show, then he may end up treating him like how Tom treated Kate.

Now, Joe’s obsession with Rhys is very much the extreme of a parasocial relationship. In case you don’t know, this typically revolves around someone who believes that they have a friendship with a celebrity or figurehead. We see this demonstrated in Pheobe’s stalker, who believes that she and Pheebs are actually friends.

I’ve actually had something similar happen, but not with you because I know that we are actually really good friends because of that time you hit the thumbs-up button.

There are some nice moments that kind of tie back to things from earlier in the season, and there’s a video Joe watches in which Tom talks about the rich. This is word for word what Rhyys said to Joe in the club back in episode 1, and it shows how he projected him into his real life.

Anyway, the reveal with Rhys allows us to see a lot of things from a new angle, such as what really happened with Marianne. We learn that he didn’t let her go and that he, in fact, kidnapped her and locked her in a cage, classic Joe style. Episode 7 actually has a really good bit of foreshadowing towards this when we see Kate say this.

You. (L to R) Charlotte Ritchie as Kate, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 408 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023
You. (L to R) Charlotte Ritchie as Kate, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 408 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

We later find out that this is where Marianne is kept, and Joe was subconsciously going on this walk with her to check it out, even if he didn’t know why.

He’s desperate to find out where she is so that he can free her, but Rhys won’t reveal the truth to him. Now, whilst this is going on, Nadia starts to look into her unassuming lecturer.

Average Joe, oh, I get it. So yeah, she suspects something is off with him, and after finding a key, she discovers Marianne trapped in a cage.

They start to put together a plan while Joe fights his darker side, tries to keep things going with Kate, and also deals with her father.

It was good to see the cage back, as it’s become a staple of yours, and whereas in the past people have fallen victim to it, I loved watching Marianne and Nadia’s plan work out. They realize that if the entire thing is exposed, Joe will just go into hiding again, and we’ve of course seen this happen over and over again throughout the show.

Now Nadia goes to Marianne once more, and she switches the number in her phone so that it seems like her daughter is being taken away from her.

Whilst all this is going on, Lady Pheobe’s wedding goes down, but she has a psychotic break after realizing exactly what things will turn into. Her husband is killed by Tom, who also tries to get his daughter to take over the throne. It’s revealed that Kate was actually beyond the event that gave all those kids cancer, and she purposely made the choice to step away from this.

After Marianne collapses, Joe puts himself on trial with his victims, and we get cameos from Beck and Love. Beck is an important victim to focus on, as Joe of course killed her in New York, which is where he ends up returning to.

Love also gives him a gun and says that someone needs to die in order for this to end for good, which is a path that he almost takes.

This was foreshadowed at the start of episode 10, and it’s possible that it’s also giving us clues about where things will end up going with Joe.

He wakes up the next day and goes to Marianne to find her apparently dead, which puts into place the next part of her and Nadia’s plan.

He dumps her body, and while all this is going on, Kate finds out the truth about her life. She tells him about all the files her dad kept on her, and Joe knows that he has to get rid of her. Joe ends up killing Tom and pinning it on his bodyguard.

He then goes to jump over a bridge, which seemingly kills the Rhys side of him. Again very similar to Fight Club and how Tyler Durden was killed.

You Season 4 Part 2 Ending Explained

Rhys tells him he loves him, and Joe thanks him before throwing him over the bridge and jumping in himself.

Upon hitting the water, though, he’s immediately filled with regret, and we discover that he was rescued by a patrol boat.

He awakens in the hospital, and as this is going on, we get the reveal of Nadia and Marian’s plan. Marianne pretended to be devastated at losing her daughter, and she took enough pills to make it seem like she was dead. Nadia then woke her up once Joe dumped her body, and being assumed dead means that she can now operate under the radar. Joe is an obsessive who can’t let things go, and thus she has to take this step to stop her from coming after her and her daughter.

Now back at the hospital, Kate arrives and confirms that Tom was setting up Joe due to some DNA found on the real Rhy’s body. However, because of his death, she’s now gained all of his power and resources, and she’s covered for Joe and made it so that he’ll never be tied to the murder.

She makes a deal with Joe that they keep each other good, and this is seemingly the opposite of love. Whereas those two enabled each other, they promise to keep themselves on the right track, which means Kate won’t turn into her father and Joe won’t turn into his Rhys side.

Both face a monumental task ahead of them, and Kate is worried that she will be corrupted by the business side of things and go back to making choices that cost lives. Joe admits his past to her along with his real name, and he tells her everything. Most people would run for the hills, but they’ve made this promise, and she, of course, has dealt with ruthless men before.

Now though it seems like Joe has turned a corner, we get it revealed in the Nadia scenes that he’s still the same old Joe, you know. It was cracking me up to hear him revealing his diabolical plans to Taylor Swift it’s me and the lyrics of that of course have her admitting she’s the problem much like how Joe does. It also has a line about how it’s exhausting rooting for the anti-hero, which very much sums up our feelings.

You. (L to R) Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg, Charlotte Ritchie as Kate in episode 406 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023
You. (L to R) Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg, Charlotte Ritchie as Kate in episode 406 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

We hear that the rich social crowd is still as toxic as ever, except for Phoebe, who now teaches English in Thailand.

Marianne is back with her daughter, and after learning that Joe is now getting positive publicity, she starts to put things in place to get him back.

From here, we cut to New York to see that Joe has returned home to where it all began. He’s even bought a book shop, and though we don’t learn which one this is, I don’t think it’ll surprise anyone if it’s revealed that it’s the one from season one. All the blame is put on Love, and any tough questions are shut down by PR. However, Joe is clearly not ready to change, and we discover that he actually killed Nadia’s boyfriend and left the box with Rhys’s belongings. He gives her a reason for his death and says that she killed him after discovering it.


Now me and my mate Mo went back and forth over what actually happened with this, as it’s kind of unclear what ends up going on with The Eat the Rich Killer. Mo took it as those crimes being pinned on Nadia, which is why she went to jail. I kind of saw it as being pinned on Eddie, and then Nadia found this and killed him. Here’s what Joe says verbatim to kind of explain what happens:

Now that there’s going to be a box found in your bedroom by the police — Rhys Montrose’s things — and an anonymous tipster, they’ll realize it was Eddie; that’s why you killed him. You have so many gifts; I’m looking forward to watching what you do next.

So yeah, that’s how I read it, but look, I’m a moron, mate, like an utter moron, so make sure you leave a comment below on whether you agree with me or you agree with Mo. Don’t tell him, because it’ll break his heart to hear so many people side with me over him.

Either way, in prison, Nadia has kept her mouth shut and, overlooking New York, Joe and Kate have vowed to change the world.

Killing is much easier now, and Joe says that he’s now honest about it.

Rather than trying to sell us the lie that he’s a good guy, he is finally embracing his dark side, and he’ll do whatever he can to make sure that he and Kate stay on top.

Now, going into the future, there’s actually not much we can go off of if we look at the source material. The third book centers around Joe moving to the Midwest, where he becomes obsessive over a woman named Mary Kay DiMarco. The sequel to this will be released this year, but the storyline in it is a far departure from the show.

I also think that the ending of the season coming full circle shows that they are pretty much ready to wrap things up with Season 5.

Netflix are killers when it comes to canceling shows, so I’m hoping that we get it, but I can see things ending back where it all started.

Now Joe actually has several people out to get him at this point beyond just Marianne. Though I do think she will come into it, I can also see Nadia being brought back along with Ellie. Jenna Ortega is so hot right now, and she was actually supposed to appear in Season 4. However, she was making Wednesday while it was being filmed and therefore couldn’t feature in it. I really hope they work things out for Season 5 and get her back. We could get three women who know the truth with Joe attempting to bring down his empire.

All are aware of what he’s really like, and it would give the fifth season some people we are desperate to see drop him.

I hope that happens too, and I think that Joe embracing his dark side is probably the final progression of his character. With nothing holding him back, he’s truly going to appear to the audience as the monster he was all along. Now he has the power and resources to cover up any crime he commits, and Kate has very much ended up with her father. He has reneged on their deal, and I can also see that happening with Kate too.

Both promised to keep each other good, but with Joe not sticking to that, I doubt he’ll be able to keep her on track either.

I’d love it if season 5 was a full-on villain story with Marianne, Ellie, and Nadia on the other side trying to take them down.


We actually had our mates over at do an interview with showrunner Sera Gamble on the series, and Mo sent me over some of the answers in advance so I could talk about them in this video. Lovely lad, and here’s what Sera had to say when it came to what characters she’d like to bring back.

There are so many I’d like to bring back, and by the way, a bunch of dead ones. There are some survivors at the end of this season who, in my opinion, certainly have reason to show their faces again. I think we’ve mentioned this before, and Jenna has mentioned it as well, that we had an idea to bring Ellie back and then we heard she got cast in some other little show. I know Jenna is very, very busy, so if we’re lucky enough to get a tiny sliver of her time, maybe we can go back and tell that Ellie story.

So yeah, maybe Ellie won’t be integrated as much as I’d hope, but they could still have Amanda Waller use her on Skype calls all the time.

Now she also said that New York was going to be a victory march home, and that though she didn’t confirm whether Rhys would be back, she said Ed knocked it out of the park.

So there are lots of things to look forward to as we get into Season 5.


Now as for my thoughts on this entry, I do feel like you are kind of sticking to the formula a bit too much, and I’d love to see Joe at least face some consequences at some point. Things always seem to work out for the best, which often robs the show of its tension.

Again, the twist fell flat for me on the reveal, but as they worked it out in the season, I think it worked well, and watching Ed Speelers just ham it up makes a great addition to the show. I like him as much as I like Joe, and seeing him as the devil on Joe’s shoulder works really well for the dynamics.

So yeah, another pretty solid season, but I am ready to wrap things up next time.

Hopefully we get that fifth entry, but you never know with Netflix.

Anyway, overall, I’m giving it a 7/10, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on it below.

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