Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I’m your host Paul and the sun shines on us again brother as the first trailer for Thor Love And Thunder is now here.
It’s time to Ragnarok and roll so follow us as we go through everything you need to know about the movie, the Easter eggs, hidden details and things you missed.
Full spoilers ahead for what happens in the comics and whilst Marvel never completely adapts storylines, I’m gonna tell you to p**s off ghost if you don’t want things ruined. Please hit the thumbs up button if you enjoy the breakdown and make sure you subscribe to the channel where you have to hand it to us that the worst puns make the cut and that’s how we get our paper. Little rock paper scissors joke there so with that out the way, thanks for clicking this, now let’s get into Thor Love And Thunder.
Now the trailer very much opens with a montage and Thor talking about how much his hands are now used for peace.
There’s very much an 80s training vibe to it in the same vein of rocky and this whole movie seems to be paying tribute to the decade.
He starts off by running and we watch through the magic of montage how he ages up. This includes his classic costume which looks amazing and we catch him meditating on a planet with what I believe has 3 suns, two moons and a Saturn like one.
Thor trains away using chains instead of ropes and on his hat, we can actually catch the classic Avengers Logo with the writing strongest over the top. This is of course a nod to Ragnarok when he called himself that.
Now Thor looks like he’s very much been on a wellness retreat and the guy has lost all the dead weight like Screen Crush when they let Ryan Arey go and allow Doug to run the channel. Getting a lot of Hippy vibes from this and we also see Stormbreaker planted in the ground. The handle for the axe, of course, came from Groot’s arm and we see it in the ground growing roots, showing how long Thor has been there.
The guardians show up and alongside them are some blue alien creatures. These are potentially the interdites who have been touched upon in the marvel expanded universe.
They were first mentioned by Lady Sif in the Agents Of Shield episode and we do know that Jamie Alexander will be playing her once more in the movie.
The Guardians Of The Galaxy
Now interestingly the Guardians are all there minus Gamora showing that they still haven’t found her. If you cast your mind back to the ending of Avengers Endgame then you’ll remember that she was brought across from another Universe and Quill was seen attempting to search for her at the end of the movie. It was even theorised that with her being part of Thanos’ army that she might have got snapped away however a deleted scene showed her leaving the battlefield after Stark had carried out the snap. So she is still alive but I doubt she’s gonna pop up in this movie and I think it’ll be something that’s probably just addressed in Guardians Volume 3.
Now we catch Thor wearing a Red Sleeveless Jacket and we know from the toy leaks that this will be called Ravager Thor. Ravagers are the group that Quill belonged to and they of course wear these red leather jackets. However, this costume itself pulls from Thor Thunderstrike in which he also had the boots on. Really nice corporate cohesion there where you take an already established character design from the comics and tie it into the universe where it’s also the uniform of a group of characters that he’s travelling with.
Now saying that the guardians might even leave without him as he seems to get a boat and he even turns around and walks away whilst they take to the sky. They travel through the hex points that have shown up in several films and this allows one to jump across the universe.
At this point we see a ship being pulled from new Asgard with two goats on the front. we see two goats pulling it right at the front which is quite important,
Now, these goats actually pull from Norse mythology and they’re based on Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjostr. In the tales of legend, they would pull Thor’s chariot and they were actually introduced into the MCU all the way back in 1976. The pair were renamed Toothgrinder and Toothgnasher and they too pulled my guy’s ride.
On the boat, we can catch valkyrie and also Korg standing there with fur shoulder pads.
It very much looks like they’re sailing across the universe looking for stuff to do and I actually appreciate how chill this whole thing looks. It’s not really action-heavy and yeah nice chilled vibe to it.
Later on in the trailer we get another look at New Asgard and can see that it’s now a thriving community. There are several cruise liners there and also a van advertising new Asgard tours.
We get a planet that looks like an MC Escher painting, and I love the way this twists and turns, adding to the complexity of the world.
There’s also a moment where Korg and Thor stand together and look over a beast. I absolutely love this moment and it’s pulled directly from the comics namely thor god of thunder. Shows how much attention to detail they’re paying and it’s such a good moment.
Russell Crowe as Zeus
Now we know that Russell Crow has also been cast as Zeus and we catch his back at one point.
This is gonna be really interesting and potentially we could get a pantheon of the gods. Moon Knight has introduced Khonshu to us and we may end up getting other ones appearing such as Bast from Black Panther. Really nice inclusion to have him in here and I can’t wait to see what they do with the guy.
Now there’s also an energy conference and potentially this is a nod to Roxxon the evil corporation that litters the Marvel Universe. They have had several references to them in the MCU but nothing major, however, this could be where they come out. Valkyrie is seen wearing a suit at this point and beside her, we can catch Meik wearing one too. This looks quite feminine and in the comics, Miek could have kids so ey, makes sense.
Now as for Jane becoming Thor, as we mentioned before this has a lot of precedent in the comics. In the source material whilst Thor was off-world battling Gorr she got diagnosed with Cancer and though she had several magical options that could have healed her she refused them. Thor eventually ended up losing his worthiness…is that…is that a word, worthiness, anyway and because of this he was unable to wield Mjolnir. It then started calling out to Jane and Heimdall took her to where it had been left behind, which just so happened to be the moon. Jane picked it up and instantly she gained Thor’s power and this also cured her of her cancer.
Thor eventually found her and though he was a bit like ‘Woah mate, you made Thor a woman, bloody, bloody outrageous wokeness this is’ he gave her his blessing when he saw that she was indeed worthy. Thor even handed over his name and we know from the toy leaks that she’ll be going by The Mighty Thor at some point in the film.
He ended up falling back on his old name Odinson and I think that’s probably what will also be happening in the film at some point.
Now one of the big questions you might have is how is Mlon…can’t pronounce it….how is Thor’s hammer back? In Thor Ragnarok, it was destroyed by Hela which was really sad because the Hammer used to pull Thor off.
As for this one though many people think that it might come from another dimension like the one in Endgame, if we look at the toy leaks we can see that it’s been pieced together again.
Maybe Hela smashed it up and because you have to be worthy to lift it the pieces remained behind and thus it was easy to put back together again.
As for how Jane can lift it, I’m not 100% sure but I have a theory that it might have something to do with the Infinity Stones. If we look at Vision in Age Of Ultron, he could lift it and though it was thought that it’s because he was pure, it might also have been to do with the Mind stone that brought him to life.
Now Jane was attached to one too, namely the Aether that showed up in Thor The Dark World. Potentially this flowing through her veins could have been the reason that she could harness the hammer and also gain the power of Thor. If you cast your mind back to the first Thor film, Odin said whoever shall be worthy shall have the power of Thor so her lifting this would instantly give her the powers.
Gorr The God Butcher
Now a big missing part of the trailer is Gorr the butcher who we know is going to be the big bad in the movie. Like a lot of things in this video, we got our first look at him in the toys leaks.
There was lots of back and forth over this and from here on out I’m calling the guy Christian Pale. As for the design, it’s a big departure from the comics and I am actually interested to see where they go with it. The big defence around the whole thing is that you don’t hire Christian Bale and then hide his face but let me present to you the Dark Knight trilogy.
Anyway, though it’s not really in line with the comics, I think that the design is kinda creepy. The guy looks like Anakin does after he got melted in Revenge Of The Sith and I’m getting a lot of evil Monk vibes from him here.
We also know from the toy leaks that the ends of his fingers will be black much in the same way that Agatha’s were in Wandavision after she cast magic from the Dark Dimension. Now, this kinda ties into an overarching theory that I have about Gorr and The Necrosword which we also know he will be wielding. This powerful weapon is strong enough to butcher a god, however, it also has a darker side to it. Wielding it could corrupt Gorr throughout the film and it may start by turning his fingers black before it moves over his whole body. Though the design for the character is getting a lot of backlash, I’d love to see if it mutated him over the film and eventually we could get a version of him that’s more in line with the comics.
Now in case you don’t know, the comics pretty much outline his backstory really well. Growing up he was very religious, tying into this Monk idea and Gorr was told that the Gods would shield him from harm if he prayed to them. However, after his wife and all their children died he promised to get revenge on the Gods and he sought to kill them one by one. This led him into conflict with Thor who eventually managed to defeat him by absorbing his weapon known as the Godbomb.
Thor labelled him the God Of Hypocrisy and though he killed him he was later resurrected in the following storylines.
Bale is a massive get for the MCU and I can’t wait to see what he pulls off in the movie. The Dark Knight trilogy is probably still the best comic book trilogy of all time and it’s gonna be great seeing him in this movie.
As for what’s happened to his family in the MCU, there have been lots of rumours such as him being snapped and thus he wasn’t there to protect his family. According to reports, they all died upon his return but this might just be bs because ey, it’s the internet and anyone can make stuff up. There are also theories that they were killed by Hela and this would somewhat set up his vendetta with Thor. With her being the goddess of death it would also tie in with the Necrosword which he may have obtained from her realm.
As for my reaction, this first look has got me really hyped. Thor Ragnarok is in my top 5 films and I think it’s easily the funniest Marvel movie there is. Watiti has gone on to win Oscars for his directing and I think the guys got a really good sense of humour. Go watch what we do in the shadows if you haven’t seen it. The comics they’re choosing to take elements from are also really strong as well and casting Christian Bale as a villain is something people will definitely wanna see.
All in all this has the making for a great movie and there’s such a fun and stylised take on this whole teaser trailer.
Really fun to be back with the God of Funder…ey and I hope you enjoyed the breakdown.